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Post by Rax on Nov 10, 2022 16:29:10 GMT -8
Good, then may I suggest that in the future, if you wish to have your character insult my character, just put it in plain writing and rely on me as a player not to have my character react to things he won't understand. When you do it with hidden text, it makes it look like you the player are trying to be rude behind my back - and that's a form of bullying.
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Post by Daos on Nov 10, 2022 16:49:33 GMT -8
Okay, there. The whispers are gone, so you can read the insults my imaginary character made about your imaginary character that he cannot react to because he can't speak Elven. I don't see what that changes, especially since you said you can read the whispers anyway, but there you go.
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Post by Rax on Nov 12, 2022 15:17:59 GMT -8
Thanks for that.
Have you ever been in a conversation which is going sour and then the person you're speaking to suddenly switches to a foreign language you don't understand in order to speak to bystanders or other people in the conversation? Where I'm from, such behaviour would be considered extremely rude, since it's a deliberate attempt to shut one of the participants out of the conversation.
In a situation where there was already tension, many people would also assume that the person switching to the foreign language is saying something unflattering, since they're making the effort to speak in a language they believe the other person doesn't know. The speaker's tone and the reaction of the listeners would also be a clue that the speaker is being rude.
This is what you chose to have Daos do. Even though he doesn't understand the words, Roshek will certainly assume that Daos is insulting him or making a joke at his expense. IC and OC, I would have Roshek react as if that's what happening even if I hadn't been able to read what you wrote in the update.
The reason I wanted you to remove the hidden text is because I took exception to you, the player, trying to hide what you we're doing from me, another player. To me, such behaviour is no different than sniggering behind someone's back in a real life game. I wouldn't accept such behaviour at a gaming table, and I dont accept it online.
Now, I want to continue playing this module, so I'm going to have Roshek decide that it's beneath him to react to Daos' comments. He's not going to be friends with Daos going forward, but he's not going to try and exact any form of revenge. After all, Roshek isn't the murderous knucklehead Daos consistently seems to take him for.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Nov 14, 2022 8:54:15 GMT -8
Alright, ok. Let's just chill. I understand how this was all taken sorry for not checking in over my 3 day weekend or on Thursday to catch this sooner.
Going forward can we only use whispers if they are things for the DM to see only please and thank you. As for characters speaking in other languages and mocking the other characters I just see that as role-play. But if it gets out of hand I hate to say I might have to ask a player to leave or just close the game up. So please let's be kind, and respectful.
Let's just follow good Netiquette, fair enough?
Netiquette Guidelines Be friendly, positive and self-reflective. When people cannot see you, and also do not know you, feelings can be hurt if you are not careful in how you express yourself. ... Use proper language and titles. ... Use effective communication. ... Professionalism. ... Ask for clarification.
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Post by Rax on Nov 14, 2022 14:41:56 GMT -8
As for characters speaking in other languages and mocking the other characters I just see that as role-play. I don't mind good-natured mocking between friendly PCs, but when the name calling is intended as a straight insult, the problem is that the insulted character is left with the stark IC choice of sucking it up or escalating, neither of which is beneficial to keeping a party together. So the less name calling there is, the better, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Nov 15, 2022 5:08:43 GMT -8
As for characters speaking in other languages and mocking the other characters I just see that as role-play. I don't mind good-natured mocking between friendly PCs, but when the name calling is intended as a straight insult, the problem is that the insulted character is left with the stark IC choice of sucking it up or escalating, neither of which is beneficial to keeping a party together. So the less name calling there is, the better, as far as I'm concerned. Point taken/made. I do agree. Though I am certainly trying to remain neutral as I can understand both sides of this matter. But I'd like to just move past it and if it happens again. I'll deal with it as I stated above. The offending player will be asked to leave the game.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Nov 16, 2022 10:44:13 GMT -8
to sort out any confusion on that recent post the fur is not on the lizard with the long sticky tongue it was something else that dashed behind a rock in the room.
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Post by Daos on Nov 16, 2022 14:33:13 GMT -8
Ignoring Hekras' casual racism, Daos continues until they reach the intersection shown on the map. "That must be where the wild animals are," he says pointing to the west, so he turns northward and continues.Your entrance into the cavern is not unnoticed... As Daos specifically did not go into the cavern, but turned north at the intersection, I assume he doesn't see any of this?
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Nov 17, 2022 7:41:17 GMT -8
Yeah sorry I guess I need to split the update into two since I failed to notice that not everyone went northwest/west. I also need to post a map update.
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Post by Daos on Nov 21, 2022 14:27:43 GMT -8
Daos turned north at the animal cavern entrance, not the storeroom. He walked west from the storeroom to the intersection, then turned northward up that passage.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Nov 21, 2022 16:30:15 GMT -8
ok sorry I shall correct then.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Nov 22, 2022 4:46:38 GMT -8
Revised my post for "group B" and will fix the map soon.
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Post by Rax on Dec 19, 2022 11:58:12 GMT -8
Hey all, just want to let you know that my wife and son have been hit with stomach flu. It seems to last about two days. Right now, I'm okay, but the odds of me not catching it are grim. If I'm unresponsive in the next few days, the flu will be the reason why.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Dec 20, 2022 7:18:21 GMT -8
Sorry I was involuntarily unplugged by a winder storm late Friday 12/16 and did not get power, heat or internet back until some time Sunday. By that time I was at an Airbnb and didn't get back home until yesterday around lunch time and had to take care of a lot of things. I'm back now though!
Rax sorry to hear about you and the wife getting sick. Rest up and get well soon!
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Dec 27, 2022 4:59:04 GMT -8
Sorry guys I'm not planning to move things along much until after new years. Please notice I gifted XP for the holidays.
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