Crusade - OOC Thread

[GreyWolfVT]

Ok how about futurama and the Morks? Or family Guy when everyone turns into Robin Williams that Peter touches? 


 

[Matt4]

Daos before going to sleep could I have used my remaining Cure Light Wounds on Granker?


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[Daos]

You could, but it won't help.  Once a character drops to negative HP, a cure spell will only restore them to 1 HP.  Any additional healing won't work until they've had a long rest.

[Matt4]

Oh ok, I'll use it on Parra then, if it's possible

[Daos]

Alright.

[HorizonsDream]

This game has turned into pretty effective birth control.

[Matt4]

Is it possible to stun the baaz? Like, hit him in the head and make him faint, somehow (?)

[Daos]

Technically, yes.  But not easily.  There are a few possible ways.

Thieves can 'mug' which is basically a backstab attack that knocks an opponent out instead of killing them.  But there are no Thieves in the party right now, so that's rather moot.

There's also 'sapping' which anyone can try, from the Complete Fighter's Handbook:

Sap

Sapping someone—i.e., hitting him over the head in order to knock him out—is a maneuver you undertake when you wish to capture an enemy alive (or just incapacitate him without killing him).

To do this, the attacking character makes a Called Shot at an additional –4 to attack rolls (so it's –8 total, plus the usual Called Shot penalties of having to announce your maneuver before initiative and suffering a +1 to initiative).

If the attack hits, the character rolls ordinary damage for the weapon. He gets a 5% chance of knockout (as per the Punching and Wrestling rules) for every point of damage he does, up to a maximum of 40%.

Example: Sir Amstard wants to knock out a noble opponent rather than kill him. He attacks to Sap the opponent. Luckily, even with the –8 to attack rolls, he successfully hits his foe. With his sword, he rolls 6 points of damage. This gives him a (6x5%) 30% chance of an instant knockout. On his percentile dice, he rolls 42; he has failed this time. He'll try again.

The damage done by Sap attacks is the same as that done by Punching; in other words, only 25% is normal, or "permanent," damage. The other 75% is temporary, and wears off after a short while, as we'll discuss later in this chapter.

When using a special or magical weapon to perform the Sap, you do not count the weapon's attack or damage bonus. You're not using the weapon the way it is meant to be used; you're hitting your target with the flat of the blade, with the hilt or pommel of the weapon, etc. Therefore, those bonuses don't count for anything.

When performed on a character who is asleep or magically held, the Sap maneuver automatically hits. The chance for knockout goes up to 10% per point of damage done, up to 80%. However, if the subsequent percentile die-roll is 81 or higher, the victim is not knocked out—he's been awakened by the attack. (Why try a Sap maneuver on an already-asleep target? Because you may want to kidnap him or smuggling him out of a cell and can't risk him waking up and alerting the guards.)

The Sap maneuver can only be performed with melee weapons or bare hands; it cannot be performed with missile weapons.

The Sap maneuver is usable only on Small (S) or Medium (M) monsters; it will not work on Large (L) or bigger monsters such as dragons. They just can't be knocked out with this maneuver.

A person could make a non-lethal attack that deals enough damage to knock someone out, but that's pretty unlikely unless the subject has very few HP.  Maybe the entire party could surprise him, all doing non-lethal attacks before he can react.

From the PHB:

Nonlethal Weapon Attacks: It is possible to make an armed attack without causing serious damage (striking with the flat of the blade, for example). This is not as easy as it sounds, however.

First, the character must be using a weapon that enables him to control the damage he inflicts. This is impossible with an arrow or sling. It isn't even feasible with a war hammer or mace. It can be done with swords and axes, as long as the blade can be turned so it doesn't cut.

Second, the character has a -4 penalty to his attack roll, since handling a weapon in this way is clumsier than usual. The damage from such an attack is 50% normal; one-half of this damage is temporary.

[TristenC]

If Parra drops the sleep spell right in the middle of the 3 awake, there is a chance she can drop all of them, right?
what are our chances they don't realize it is magical?

[Daos]

The area of effect of Sleep is 30 feet, so yes, it could theoretically target all of them.  Depending on how many HP effected are rolled and how well they do on their MR checks, though, there is not a guarantee it will work on all three.

As for realizing it's magical, Baaz are typically rather dumb.  But if one or more of them suddenly drop unconscious, I imagine that will make them at least a bit suspicious.

[TristenC]

Sounds good. I'm thinking Sha'al can get behind one of the columns, the others can prepare to fire, and parra casts sleep to envelop the awake baaz. if one doesn't fall asleep, Sha'al and the others can try to take the survivor out quickly, then deal with the sleeping ones. What does everyone think?

[Dallion80]

sorry fornot being active we are moving this week, we had 40 days to find a place

[GreyWolfVT]

Jul 27, 2022 8:38:48 GMT -8 TristenC said:

Sounds good. I'm thinking Sha'al can get behind one of the columns, the others can prepare to fire, and parra casts sleep to envelop the awake baaz. if one doesn't fall asleep, Sha'al and the others can try to take the survivor out quickly, then deal with the sleeping ones. What does everyone think?

it could work granted my suggestion is only a half plan since I'm not sure how to actually lure the not sleeping ones will be lured out.

[TristenC]

Yeah, that could work as well as opposed to us going in. My only 2 concerns with luring them out are
1) the kender kids may wake up the sleeping baaz while we are doing that
2) if the baaz get suspicious of the lure, they may wake more of the currently sleeping baaz


However, a proper lure still might work.
one potential lure might be for someone (high cha?) to imitate the now-dead baaz and say something like, "Hahaha, hey guys come check this out." But in an amused voice, not like one alerted to danger. Once outside we could try sleep/ kill or K.O

[Daos]

Jul 27, 2022 11:05:35 GMT -8 TristenC said:

However, a proper lure still might work.
one potential lure might be for someone (high cha?) to imitate the now-dead baaz and say something like, "Hahaha, hey guys come check this out." But in an amused voice, not like one alerted to danger. Once outside we could try sleep/ kill or K.O

Most of the party dumped Charisma.  The only ones with decent scores are Kaelestia and Sumina, and I'm not sure either could convincingly sound like a male Baaz.  Especially one whose voice they've never heard.