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Post by Daos on Mar 28, 2021 14:57:02 GMT -8
Yes, exactly. We, as the audience, have no context for how much of a point the Flag Smashers might have. Is the GRC somehow harming the half of the population that survived in order to help the half that didn't? Or is this just the Flag Smashers' version of 'all lives matter?'
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Post by Daos on Mar 29, 2021 13:32:53 GMT -8
Finally caught up and saw the series finale of the new Ducktales. It was a perfect ending. Also, I loved the Gargoyles references. Keith David has still got it. Still pretty sad about the show ending, though. Really felt like it was still in its prime. Loved the final credits, too:
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Post by GravityEmblem on Mar 30, 2021 17:32:00 GMT -8
Being the Simpsons fans that you are, do you have any reccomendations for episodes low in objectionable content? (sexual humor, mostly) My parents considered Flaming Moes a bit much, but we loved Bart the Murderer, so there’s a little guideline for you two.
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Post by Daos on Mar 30, 2021 20:18:54 GMT -8
I honestly don't remember any sexual humor in Flaming Moe's. I did find this list of all the Simpsons episodes that are rated TV-14 (although Flaming Moe's is not among them) if that helps any in figuring out what to avoid.
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Post by Daos on Apr 5, 2021 13:11:15 GMT -8
The teaser for Star Trek Picard, Season 2. The teaser for Star Trek Discovery, season 4. The teaser for Star Trek Lower Decks, season 2. (Lot of Star Trek teasers, because today is First Contact Day.) Also, the trailer for Loki.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Apr 6, 2021 3:52:42 GMT -8
Watched all of season 1 of The Watch on prime video. I got into it didn't realize it was based off of Terry Prachett's work.
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Post by HorizonsDream on Apr 6, 2021 10:49:42 GMT -8
I can't rightly express the pure joy I got from watching the Picard trailer.
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Post by GravityEmblem on Apr 6, 2021 11:32:40 GMT -8
Anyone see Falcon/Winter Soldier episode 3? The writers are awful at making the Flag-Smashers even the least bit sympathetic. As in, I don't just understand what they're doing is wrong, I can barely understand it. So, they steal supplies from a refugee camp...because they're "hoarding supplies?" And then Karli blows it up because it's "the only language these people understand?" What?!??!?!
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Apr 6, 2021 13:10:15 GMT -8
I agree with Horizons watched the trailers and Picard season 2 just wow. Loki as well was a thrill to see.
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Post by Daos on Apr 6, 2021 13:59:42 GMT -8
I can't rightly express the pure joy I got from watching the Picard trailer. I totally called that, too. I knew that at least one season of Picard was going to center around Q; if not the second season, I knew he was going to play a role at some point. Anyone see Falcon/Winter Soldier episode 3? The writers are awful at making the Flag-Smashers even the least bit sympathetic. As in, I don't just understand what they're doing is wrong, I can barely understand it. So, they steal supplies from a refugee camp...because they're "hoarding supplies?" And then Karli blows it up because it's "the only language these people understand?" What?!??!?! I am a little perplexed at what they are trying to do with the Flag-Smashers. Granted, it's a six episode series, and we're three episodes in already, so there isn't a ton of time for nuanced character development. But I'm still unsure if the Flag-Smashers are supposed to have a legitimate point or not, and it does seem an odd choice to try and make them appear sympathetic, only to turn around and depict them (or Karli, anyway) as so brutally ruthless. I see three possibilities: 1.) We are supposed to sympathize with Karli and the Flag Smashers. Hence the exploration of her backstory, showing her sitting with a dying relative, etc. But if this is the case, why the sudden turn around? It only makes sense if we, the audience, are to believe the Global Council are pure Evil. But if we are supposed to believe that, the show has not done a good job highlighting that. We really don't know much of anything about the Global Council, what they are doing, or whether they're helping people or hurting them. 2.) We are not supposed to sympathize with Karli and the Flag Smashers. They are Bad Guys, and we should be rooting for our heroes to take them down. If that is the case, what was up with the scenes showing her sitting with a dying relative? Why bother fleshing her out at all, for that matter? 3.) The show is trying to do a nuanced depiction of Karli and the Flag Smashers. Karli is trying to do a good thing, but her methods are flawed. Thus, the show may end with Karli being defeated, but the Heroes realizing she had something of a point, and deciding to carry on her fight, but in a less ruthless/brutal/radical way. The problem is, they only have six episodes to work with, and it's hard to properly depict nuance in such a short timespan. So we're getting some weird whiplash between her good side and her bad side. Personally, my money is on number 3.
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Post by Daos on Apr 7, 2021 13:23:41 GMT -8
I read an article today that also discussed the Falcon and Winter Soldier topic. The author seems to feel that the reason Karli acted the way she did was to prevent the audience thinking she had too much of a good point.
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Post by GravityEmblem on Apr 7, 2021 13:41:59 GMT -8
I read an article today that also discussed the Falcon and Winter Soldier topic. The author seems to feel that the reason Karli acted the way she did was to prevent the audience thinking she had too much of a good point. The thing is? I never thought she had a point in the first place. My objection isn't to her blowing up the refugee camp--actually, I found that hilariously unnecessary and stupid. My objection was to her: A) Thinking that life was better when everyone was dead. B) Thinking that it was unfair for the government to...help the people who came back? Because they thought the government should help them instead?? C) Stealing supplies for refugees, because..."we're fighting for our lives??" As far as I can tell, the GPC is doing a bang-up job helping people after a disaster that the world may never truly recover from. I don't see her as someone with a point that the writers hustled to make a true villain, I see her as someone with no point whatsoever, who I can't even begin to understand why she's doing what she's doing. Maybe if the issue at hand was something a little more realistic and close to home, I'd understand where the article is coming from, but as it stands, with this overblown, fantastical disaster? She just seems really unhinged, borderline spoiled. Plus, the article says she's stealing stuff for people in displacement camps...that's not what I understood at all. I mean.... surely those supplies were already going to the people in displacement camps, or other people who desperately need it in this horrible crisis situation? There's not a single second of the whole series that made me think "the GRC are abusing their power, Karli has a point." And, to be incredibly blunt, reading that article made me worry for all the people who sympathized with her.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Apr 7, 2021 17:05:04 GMT -8
Startrek wise I figured Q would come back in some form just wasn't sure if it would be on Picard, Lower Decks or Discovery. I'm glad for it I like Q lol.
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Post by Daos on Apr 7, 2021 19:29:23 GMT -8
Gravity, yeah, this goes back to what I said before; that we don't really know what it was like during the five years after the Snap, but the show seems written on the idea that we do. If it was a real event, that would make sense. Well, maybe things will make more sense after episode 4. I'll probably stay up past midnight again to watch as soon as it drops.
Greywolf, actually Q did appear in Lower Decks, too, although it was just a cameo.
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Post by HorizonsDream on Apr 7, 2021 20:28:08 GMT -8
Considering Picard and his history, it makes sense for Q to appear on Picard. Q is such a troll that loves to bother Picard. It is like his hobby.
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