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Post by Matt4 on Sept 4, 2023 18:32:34 GMT -8
Those Hold Person rolls...wow
I was checking the character sheets..Sha'al has taken 4 dmg from falling, 4 bludgeoning dmg, and now 8 slashing, shouldn't he be at 3 hp (although paralyzed)?
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Post by Daos on Sept 4, 2023 18:59:21 GMT -8
Hmm...yeah, it seems so. Not sure how that happened. I guess at some point I just forgot how to do simple math.
Okay, that's fixed then. He's still conscious, albeit barely, just paralyzed.
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Post by TristenC on Sept 4, 2023 19:21:20 GMT -8
Lol, well crap. At least he's not bleeding out, just out of the fight.
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Post by Matt4 on Sept 5, 2023 1:30:54 GMT -8
Ahahah it happens
So, anyway... Ideas on how to improve our odds? I don't want this party to die.. I was thinking on use Charm etc on Drac 3 to try and convince him to switch sides (if I can get a fking spell to stick ;_;), opinions by the more experienced players/dm?
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Post by TristenC on Sept 5, 2023 6:50:41 GMT -8
I doubt charm would make him attack his allies. It might keep him alone from attacking Kaele only
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Post by Matt4 on Sept 5, 2023 8:07:45 GMT -8
The spell kinda implies that you can have the creature act against its former allies (just that it wouldn't use valued items against them), so idk.. I'll wait to see what Daos says about it, otherwise I may try to blind him with Sunscorch
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Post by Daos on Sept 5, 2023 13:55:33 GMT -8
Usually the best strategy is to try and force a morale check. If you can disable or take out enough of them, the rest may flee or surrender. In which case, it may be wise to try and focus fire on a few, rather than the party spreading themselves out to fight them one-on-one. (Right now, the one Granker is fighting is in bad shape, but the rest are either untouched or just slightly scratched.)
If you want to risk magic, maybe Sumina will have better luck if she uses her Hold Person. (Then again, it could result just as Kaelestia's did.) As I alluded in my post, Parra is carrying several potent scrolls, including some 9th level spells (although granted, having a level 2 mage try to cast such complicated spells could backfire badly). Sha'al also has one magic javelin left--granted, he's paralyzed and the only one proficient with them, but someone else could grab and throw it, if they're feeling lucky.
As for Charm Person, the way I've always run it is that it makes the victim view the caster as a trusted friend. But that's it. So any request made would have to be a reasonable one to make to a trusted friend. Would you loan a trusted friend $20? Probably, if you could spare it. Would you give them your credit card numbers? No, probably not. (Unless you're particularly trusting/gullible.)
Asking him to attack his allies would depend on how he feels about them, what the situation is surrounding them, and his own personality. As well as how the request is phrased.
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Post by TristenC on Sept 5, 2023 14:13:32 GMT -8
Maybe wording like "The other draconians trying to kill me! Protect me, friend!" Maybe at least he would get in the way of the others and stop attacking us
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Post by Matt4 on Sept 5, 2023 15:08:04 GMT -8
I was thinking of phrasing it "Your friends betrayed us, take them alive so we can question them." Or something like that, in a way that I'm not asking him to outright kill them, but just to paralyze them/knock them out.
I also agree on focusing fire. I didn't realize Sumina also has Hold Person, it would be great if she uses it, hoping she's luckier than me
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Post by Daos on Sept 6, 2023 12:58:21 GMT -8
New post will go up in about 24 hours.
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Post by TristenC on Sept 6, 2023 16:15:58 GMT -8
I was thinking of phrasing it "Your friends betrayed us, take them alive so we can question them." Or something like that, in a way that I'm not asking him to outright kill them, but just to paralyze them/knock them out. I also agree on focusing fire. I didn't realize Sumina also has Hold Person, it would be great if she uses it, hoping she's luckier than me Yeah, that sounds good too
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Post by Igordragonian on Sept 7, 2023 12:26:05 GMT -8
By the way.. I imagine Parra cant use shield. Right? As a wizard.. but as a savage wizard she is allowed to use shatangs? Yes?
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Post by Matt4 on Sept 7, 2023 12:34:37 GMT -8
Reading your character sheet, yes you're correct. You cannot use shields, but you can use shatangs
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Post by Matt4 on Sept 7, 2023 13:03:05 GMT -8
Oh my god, Igor did you succed? 😍 That's so cool!!
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Post by Daos on Sept 7, 2023 15:31:38 GMT -8
By the way.. I imagine Parra cant use shield. Right? As a wizard.. but as a savage wizard she is allowed to use shatangs? Yes? Wizards cannot use shields, correct. But her kit allows her to learn and use one native weapon, which in her case is the Shatang, yes.
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