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Post by GreyWolfVT on Sept 26, 2022 10:55:34 GMT -8
I did end up watching all 3 episodes of Andor and I am left wanting more. In other words I really like the story thus far and really would like to learn more about Cassian Andor.
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Post by Daos on Sept 26, 2022 12:48:36 GMT -8
I caught the second episode on Saturday night, and I plan to watch the third one tonight at dinner. So far, I'm loving it. Also, here's the trailer for The Last of Us, based on the hit videogame, coming out next year.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Sept 27, 2022 5:04:13 GMT -8
Isn't that the same actor that plays the Mandalorian?
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Post by Daos on Sept 27, 2022 11:38:37 GMT -8
I believe so. But I know him, and the little girl, both from Game of Thrones.
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Post by Daos on Sept 29, 2022 11:56:04 GMT -8
I caught the second episode of Quantum Leap last night, and still have a lot of thoughts and feelings on the show so far.
It does seem that, despite the show being a continuation of the first one, and making tons of references to it, it is meant to be something entirely different. The old show was episodic, with 99-100% of each episode being dedicated to what was happening in the past, and with Sam and Al being the only main characters. The new show is very much steeped in continuity and dedicated to a seasonal arc, and is divided about 50/50 between the past and future, and seems to be more of an ensemble show with at least five or six main characters. Consequently, the new show sometimes feels rushed, because they are juggling so many plot points at once. The show seems way more interested in its story arc, the solving of the mystery of why Ben leaped suddenly without telling anyone, than it does with the actual adventures in the past Ben is having. This creates this weird contrast, where the show is about Ben, but not actually about him, if you get me. In other words, the show is more interested in why Ben leaped, not his actual leaping now. Which seems odd to me.
In the original show, the hows and whys weren't really important. The concept of Sam leaping around in time was a premise; an excuse to tell a story, not a story in of itself. We don't even find out why Sam suddenly leaped without telling anyone until the second season of the original show, because it wasn't that important to the show (but it was important to that particular episode, hence why we ever found out at all). In the original show, the future wasn't important at all. We get glimpses of it here and there, and some cameos from the people working on the project (Gooshie, Tina, etc.), but the show was firmly centered on the past. In the new show, the future (or present, really) feels more important than whatever is happening in the past.
So I guess that's an adjustment to be made. The old show was a story-of-the-week drama that used time travel as a premise but wasn't actually about time travel. The new show is a seasonal arc mystery centered on solving said mystery.
Overall, I don't hate the new show. But it doesn't feel like Quantum Leap to me, in any way and form. But it's enjoyable enough for what it is.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Sept 30, 2022 5:01:52 GMT -8
I still haven't bothered to try watching it on Peacock (Had enough shows to watch on my various other platforms)
Incidentally has anyone else watched Rob Zombie's Munsters movie it was live on Netflix yesterday so I watched it. I actually liked it.
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Post by Daos on Oct 8, 2022 14:57:03 GMT -8
I got a couple of new trailers here:
Finally, after over two years, we're getting the fourth season of The Dragon Prince in just under a month. I might have to find time to binge the first three seasons again to catch up my memory on things. It's been awhile!
The final season of Picard. Now I know most Star Trek fans will freak out over those two cameos at the end, but what got to me was the ship you see at the 1:52 mark--because that is the USS Enterprise-F, the Odyssey class vessel from Star Trek Online!  |
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Oct 11, 2022 3:59:25 GMT -8
Ok, I must admit it was trilling to see so many old familiar faces but the end of the trailer was unexpected to see Daniel Davis returns as Professor Moriarty, I was a bit surprised to not see Will Wheaton as Wesley Crusher in the trailer.
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Post by Daos on Oct 11, 2022 11:45:28 GMT -8
He might still show up. He cameoed in the second season, after all.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Oct 12, 2022 4:34:35 GMT -8
True. It was pretty cool to see a lot of the old Next Gen. crew again like Worf, La Forge, Riker (Which we have seen a few times already)
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Post by Daos on Oct 12, 2022 13:56:12 GMT -8
Yeah, it is. But I do wish the new Star Treks weren't so obsessed with their predecessors. There are five Star Trek series now, and every single one of them is pretty focused on one of the older shows. I give a pass to Lower Decks, since it's a sitcom, so it makes sense for them to have constant references and callbacks, but it can get a little tiresome for the others. It would be nice, with all the Star Treks on the air, if at least one of them was devoted to telling new stories about new characters.
Discovery - Originally set during TOS time period, main character is Spock's half-sister, Spock himself was a main character for awhile, as was Pike.
Picard - Main character is from TNG, and while the rest of the cast was largely new (other than Seven from Voyager), almost all of them have been culled to make more room for other TNG characters now.
Lower Decks - Ironically, probably the most original show. While it has lots of gag references and cameos, all of the main characters are new, as is the ship.
Prodigy - Same as above; largely original, although Janeway (Voyager) is a main character. But aside from that, the cast are all new.
Strange New Worlds - Takes place shortly before TOS, set on the original USS Enterprise, main characters are Pike, Spock, Uhura, Number One, Nurse Chapel, Dr. M'Benga and some relative of Khan's (I assume, anyway, they are both named Noonien-Singh), plus Kirk's brother and Kirk himself is joining next season. In fact, there are only two bridge officers who are not from or related to a previous show, and they already killed one of them off.
So, yeah, I don't know. Fanservice and callbacks are fine, in moderation, but I worry Star Trek is becoming far too self-referential, much like Star Wars. I just wish they'd have at least one show set in the 'present day' of Star Trek (i.e., not a prequel series) with a new ship, new crew, and new stories. Preferably one that is not overly focused on Klingons, Vulcans, or the Borg. I'd love to see more focus on the lesser seen races, like Andorians, Tellarites, Saurians, Remans, Caitians, Betazoids, Bolians, Benzites, etc. In other words, I'd like a Star Trek show to get the Andor treatment--made by someone who isn't a superfan but wants to tell good stories within that setting. Probably will never happen, though.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Oct 13, 2022 3:48:54 GMT -8
I didn't catch a lot of those references as they are from Star Trek's I never even watched. I only really pick up on the TNG and even some of those I have long forgotten about since it has been a long time since I watched TNG. Honestly, before all of these shows I hadn't watched a Star Trek since Enterprise with Scott Bakula as the captain.
So most of these things you are pointing out are way over my head and nothing I ever knew about or picked up on. This is probably how the shows have audiences that don't mind the things you pointed out.
I did kind of expect Picard to bring back some of the old cast eventually. They did sort of hold off on that for at least a couple seasons.
Oddly enough my favorite current Star Trek is lower decks. Prodigy is probably my second favorite with Strange New Worlds as my 3rd, followed by Picard then Discovery. I only say oddly as I started with Discovery, then Picard & Lower Decks then Prodigy, and lastly SNW.
At any rate I'm rambling now, take it as you wish. I'm a fan of the shows callbacks, references, cast, flaws and all.
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Post by Daos on Oct 13, 2022 12:37:12 GMT -8
Honestly, before all of these shows I hadn't watched a Star Trek since Enterprise with Scott Bakula as the captain. Me, either, but that's because before Discovery, Enterprise was the last Star Trek to air. There was a 12 year gap between the two (Enterprise ended in 2005, Discovery began in 2017). I did kind of expect Picard to bring back some of the old cast eventually. They did sort of hold off on that for at least a couple seasons. The ironic thing is, when Picard first started, the cast and crew insisted they were not going to be a big TNG reunion tour. They would only bring back old characters if it suited the story, but that wouldn't be the focus on the show; the focus would be on telling new stories with mostly new characters. But the fans cried and screamed and gnashed their teeth so much, I guess by the time the third season was being prepared, they were like, "Ah, screw it. It's the last season anyway." Oddly enough my favorite current Star Trek is lower decks. Prodigy is probably my second favorite with Strange New Worlds as my 3rd, followed by Picard then Discovery. I only say oddly as I started with Discovery, then Picard & Lower Decks then Prodigy, and lastly SNW. Yeah, I'd call Lower Decks my favorite of the five new ones, and Prodigy my second favorite, as well. It's harder for me to rate the three live action ones, as their quality seems to shift from season to season. |
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Oct 14, 2022 4:29:59 GMT -8
What gets me lost is any Deep Space 9 & Voyager references as I never watched either. I did watch some re-runs of the original, granted that was a long time ago when I was probably 14.
I did really get into Discovery for a bit in the first and second season, but once SNW came out I kind of got more into that than Discovery TBH. Picard just really enthralled me in the first season because I grew up watching Next Gen.
Switching Gears though of all the space related TV shows out there right now I'm probably more into The Orville and Avenue 5 mostly due to the comedic parts of both.
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Post by Daos on Oct 14, 2022 12:59:17 GMT -8
Most of the new shows ignore DS9 entirely. Lower Decks is the one exception (they even had a recent episode that focused on the station), but then again, Lower Decks references everything--even TAS. The only new shows that reference Voyager are Picard and of course, Prodigy. Discovery and Strange New Worlds mostly tie in with TOS.
Speaking of which, now that Lower Decks' current season has ended, Prodigy is coming back on the 27th.
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