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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 3, 2022 4:28:22 GMT -8
True enough!
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 6, 2022 5:32:52 GMT -8
Sorry for the delay in my update had a busy weekend my wife took the weekend off from work and we spend both days out doing things like a family hike and what not. Posted an update and the master offers to end the battle and pay you off to leave. So take that as you wish and either keep fighting or stop and listen to his offer.
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Post by TristenC on Jun 6, 2022 8:46:21 GMT -8
Wait, so tristen's longbow thac0 is 17 and i rolled a 16 and 14 and both missed? Oof, so the leader's AC is AC 0 or better @_@
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 6, 2022 11:01:12 GMT -8
To hit the leader you need apparently to be able to hit an AC of -1 unless the module is lying to me which is entirely possible. I'll recalculate the AC for him and edit my summary post.
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Post by TristenC on Jun 6, 2022 11:12:34 GMT -8
Wow. Yeah he's tanked up then, lol.
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Post by Rax on Jun 6, 2022 12:38:32 GMT -8
Which means this is a job for Daos' wand of magic missiles. Everyone else just needs to keep the Master too occupied to cast spells on us. Obviously that will be a lot easier once the two guards are knocked out and we can bar or block the door to prevent reinforcements entering. Daos could start zapping the Master right away though.
Edit: Oh, and totally OOC, Roshek intends to keep fighting. Is anyone else considering taking up the Master's offer?
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Post by GravityEmblem on Jun 6, 2022 12:59:55 GMT -8
No, not really. I know Daos (the character) would never do something like that, and this is more of a "fight the bad guys" campaign than a "moral dilemma" campaign.
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Post by Daos on Jun 6, 2022 13:58:00 GMT -8
Wait, so tristen's longbow thac0 is 17 and i rolled a 16 and 14 and both missed? Oof, so the leader's AC is AC 0 or better @_@ Yeah, that adds up. He was described as wearing plate mail, which is AC 2. If he has a shield, if his armor is magical, or if his DEX is high enough (or some combination of those three), that could easily bump him up to AC -1. Not really worried, though, Daos can spam indefinite Magic Missiles with that ring, so AC means nothing. It might take time to whittle him down (he can only fire 2 missiles per round, and they only do 1d4+1 each), but they always hit.
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 7, 2022 5:24:45 GMT -8
Hekras and Q are NPC's and their morals lie closely to the groups and they wouldn't take the offer unless you all agreed to it. But this is one of the scenarios I was talking about it pretty flatly states that the leader will bargain, beg and try to pay you off if things turn violent. But it also says if you attack the guards he will try to aid them as well. Really at this point he is just trying to buy you off before he takes too much injury. Closer to death he likely changes tactics to begging and pleading.
But yes Daos you are on the right path Plate Mail armor, and yes one of the other scenarios you said is accurate. It appears the Master has higher Dex that does lower his AC. But it appears the AC of -1 is accurate by my count/math.
Out of everyone the guards are easier to hit and take down than the Master himself.
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Post by TristenC on Jun 7, 2022 7:05:59 GMT -8
Agreed. Let's do this thing.
Out of curiosity, greywolf, do you use the reduced non-proficient penalty guidelines from "Complete fighter" for being proficient with a similar class of weapon? (Like longsword vs broadsword)
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 7, 2022 7:16:33 GMT -8
Agreed. Let's do this thing.
Out of curiosity, greywolf, do you use the reduced non-proficient penalty guidelines from "Complete fighter" for being proficient with a similar class of weapon? (Like longsword vs broadsword)
Honestly, I've not encountered many using weapons they aren't proficient in but I probably would if you are thinking to do something like that here.
If this is that sword found wedged behind a bookcase/shelf it is a Broadsword +1
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 7, 2022 7:29:25 GMT -8
To add on I should have just said use weapon group proficiency rules back when we started this. Because reading that part of the Complete Fighter's Handbook makes me a lot happier to run that ruling rather than single weapon prof. style like the PHB.
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Post by TristenC on Jun 7, 2022 8:05:38 GMT -8
Ok, cool. Yeah that was why i was asking. I figured if it was a +1 the chance to hit would only be a little lower but the dmg higher than using my mundane longsword
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Post by GreyWolfVT on Jun 7, 2022 9:44:02 GMT -8
Yeah a broadsword +1 would be 2d4+1 so at least up to 9 dmg max.
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Post by TristenC on Jun 7, 2022 12:43:13 GMT -8
Yeah, good trade off in this case since min dmg is 3, avg 6 vs the mundane longsword 1d8 min 1 avg 4.5
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