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Post by Bishgada on Oct 7, 2019 23:04:15 GMT -8
Hi all,
Two suggestions if I may:
1. The girl pointing at thin air may be other dimension or something like that. Or ethereal creatures she may see that feast on humanoid souls making them drop dead. Is other dimensional stuff count as magic? Can it be detected by Saren or other magicians/clerics? Do other people of the refugees point at thin air?
2. Maybe the island intensify feelings. Those who have no clear consciousness suffer bad nightmares but other do not? Although I think all of us should have had some not clear consciousness. It could be the place or a creature with psychic abilities. If someone would be under the effect of fear or similar spell would detect magic detect it? Or once the spell has been cast the effect become natural?
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Post by Rax on Oct 8, 2019 10:03:15 GMT -8
1. It's possible, but we have very little to substantiate that as yet. Imrich's detect magic didn't register anything, but that doesn't have to mean that there wasn't some sort of incorporeal or ethereal being there. Otherplanar creatures don't necessarily register as magical.
2. If the island has that sort of effect I would have expected it to be a known danger. It's not like Sanctuary is an isolated place no one ever comes to, and it seems likely that any number of earlier visitors would have been candidates for nightmares or sudden death if there was something about the island causing these problems.
Detect magic should detect an active spell, yes.
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Post by Bishgada on Oct 8, 2019 12:01:46 GMT -8
Yeah, maybe it were long shots. But the girl pointing at something is a new clue at least.
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Post by Rax on Oct 14, 2019 12:12:11 GMT -8
(OOC: Flinn didn't answer Imrich's questions because he thought they were accusatory. Which is why he said, "And what is with all these personal questions? What are you getting at here?" He thought Imrich was insinuating he or his family had something to do with the deaths. Imrich could try asking the questions again in a different manner, or explain his reasoning for asking, or try intimidating the answers out of him.) I gathered that. Since I didn't have time to post while the conversation moved on, I was hoping we could just say that Imrich managed to rephrase his questions in a mollifying manner without doing a parallel/timeshifted conversation. In as far as he thinks Flinn and his family might have something to do with the deaths, his current assumption is that it's nothing deliberate. The purpose of his questions is to try and find out if the pendant might have been specifically created by Rose's grandmother to protect her daughter/granddaughter and if that's the case, if it might be possible to glean some insight into how it works from whatever snippets of information Flinn might remember. |
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Post by Daos on Oct 14, 2019 12:17:07 GMT -8
Flinn would say neither he nor his wife had any magic using relatives, as far as he knows.
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Post by Rax on Oct 14, 2019 12:23:07 GMT -8
Cool, thanks.
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Post by Rax on Oct 20, 2019 13:22:06 GMT -8
Just checking, but if I'm understanding Rose's response correctly, she's confirmed that the only time she's seen the monster she drew was in the tent when she discovered the dwarf's body, correct?
But she's also indicated that she saw something in the tent before with us, which was invisible to everyone else. Also correct?
OOC, I have an idea about what the monster she drew might be. Is there some kind of NWP Imrich could use to identify it, or can he roll vs. Int?
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Post by Daos on Oct 20, 2019 13:30:34 GMT -8
Here's a recap of the whole conversation: Kalana asked if Rose was with the dwarf when he died, and she nodded. Kalana asked if the dwarf was in his tent when he died, and she nodded. Kalana asked if Rose saw anything in the tent at the time aside from the dwarf, his cot and his chest, and she nodded. Senllip asked if the thing Rose saw in the tent (that wasn't the dwarf, his cot or his chest) was the same thing she saw over his shoulder, and she seemed confused by the question. Kalana asked if Rose could draw what she saw, and she drew this. Kalana asked Rose if the thing she drew is what she was pointing at over Senllip's shoulder, and she shook her head. Imrich asked if Rose had seen the thing she drew elsewhere, and she shook her head. Imrich asked if the thing Rose drew was in the tent with them right now, and she shook her head. Kalana asked, once again, if Rose saw something floating near Senllip earlier, and she shook her head. How about a d20+INT-7 to see if Imrich knows anything. |
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Post by Rax on Oct 20, 2019 14:17:20 GMT -8
But she did point at the air behind Senllip in the other tent, so she must have seen something. Is she now denying having seen anything out of the ordinary in the other tent? It seems so from your recap. 
Monster knowledge check jHJLsmJZ1d20+6
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Post by Daos on Oct 20, 2019 16:00:45 GMT -8
There are definitely some discrepancies in Rose's testimony. At least one none of you have even noticed yet. Whether that's because Flinn is right, and she's just making stuff up, or due to something else, is unclear. Examining the picture more closely, something that stands out to Imrich is that it seems to have multiple eyes and multiple mouths. A vague memory is recalled, of back when he was studying to become a mage killer, of a creature called a feyr. He doesn't recall any details, just the very elaborate picture someone had drawn of one in the book he had been studying at the time. And that they were magical creatures that were associated with fear and trauma. |
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Post by Rax on Oct 21, 2019 12:08:22 GMT -8
Yay OOC knowledge! That's what I though it might be! |
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Post by Bishgada on Oct 22, 2019 0:49:36 GMT -8
Maybe Rose has lazy eye and she was pointing at Senllip amazing show  BTW, I remember there was something called mind flayer but I'm not sure it fits the drawing or the circumstances of the deaths. Maybe what she saw near Senllip was not floating, just very tall. We can ask her to draw it. Daos, is this discrepancy that we missed appears in the summary you gave of the whole conversation? |
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Post by Daos on Oct 22, 2019 0:58:50 GMT -8
Daos, is this discrepancy that we missed appears in the summary you gave of the whole conversation? No. Actually, it was based more on something Flinn said. |
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Post by Bishgada on Oct 22, 2019 11:49:29 GMT -8
Good. So we are not THAT terrible, it could be worse if it was in the short summary and we would still miss it.  |
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Post by Rax on Oct 22, 2019 12:37:14 GMT -8
I was wondering if Imrich's Blind-fight NWP might be helpful in detecting the presence of the feyr? The final paragraph says this:
This could be interpreted to mean that Imrich can sense that there's an invisible creature somewhere nearby, even though he can't pinpoint it to make an attack unless it attacks him first.
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